tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5761095693213568868.post4402696455257172495..comments2021-04-06T05:15:27.819-07:00Comments on Lost in JIT: HippyVM goes to Y Combinator and failsMaciej Fijalkowskihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11410841070239382771noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5761095693213568868.post-7928666162895307112015-11-16T22:57:04.195-08:002015-11-16T22:57:04.195-08:00What about all the companies using Python2 still? ...What about all the companies using Python2 still? Everyone is on the fence on what to do with their large codebases. I think a migration to PyPy4 makes more sense than CPython3.<br />I think all you need to do is announce you're officially a permanent branch of Python2 and offering support for it under PyPy4. You could even call the implementation and language PyPy4 to not only avoid trademark issues going forward, and to build the brand.<br /><br />The money would come in from corporations with feature requests, bugs, or integrating backports to PyPy4 from Python3. Along with your recent post about supporting the Python C API you have a very strong base.<br />Eventually integrating PyPy4 with PyPy-STM will be quite the product. If you were to do this, I'd drop development of PyPy3 because CPython3 would be your main competition for users. But snatching up all their lost users would be a major coup. I honestly think you'd be more important, thus wealthy, than CPython3 could ever be, overnight.<br />There's plenty of work there, but you could build your own features if you wanted. I think these corporations would pay handsomely. <br /><br />As a Python2 dev, I can say many of us are looking to you guys to lead us to a better Python.BuckRogershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10028451805258618391noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5761095693213568868.post-1485705624303173192015-06-03T09:26:57.157-07:002015-06-03T09:26:57.157-07:00The Python -> PHP bridge seems like it should h...The Python -> PHP bridge seems like it should have commercial applications. <br /><br />I'm a huge ran of using Wordpress (especially in projects for clients), but for running data pipelines, and building SOA style applications in general I'd far prefer to use Python. Obviously I can use a task queue or simple webhooks, but having a deeper level of integration between languages would be more ideal.<br /><br />It would be great to be able to have Python handle data access and authorization and use PHP / Wordpress to render and serve the data to the client. <br /><br />Mainly I'm interested because it seems like most of the focus on PyPy development has been for scientific research, and I think it has the potential to be a great web serving platform. <br /><br />Especially with the STM approach to removing the GIL in python, having a thread pool of Python workers handle database and cache access (with tiered local and remote caches) seems like it would outperform a typical PHP framework.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09673494848390364609noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5761095693213568868.post-13421212225837373232015-03-28T06:26:00.987-07:002015-03-28T06:26:00.987-07:00Great post, thanks for sharing your experience. I&...Great post, thanks for sharing your experience. I'm interested in HippyVM succeeding. I'm an Open Source marketer and crowdfunder.Sam Tukehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13232339983592339314noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5761095693213568868.post-86181818620027737382015-03-21T14:33:48.635-07:002015-03-21T14:33:48.635-07:00You guys have great assets if you want to start a ...You guys have great assets if you want to start a startup. First is Python on iPhone/iPad or Android is a good business model like Rubymotion.<br /><br />Second is package PyPy with Twisted/Tornado/Django + CffiDatabaseDrivers + (Spark) like Typesafe in Scala. I think until now lots of people don't know how to speed up their web applications using PyPy. The some computation speed up advantage part of PyPy can be replaced by Numpy in CPython easily so most people still don't use PyPy.Bearhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10301431975043826550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5761095693213568868.post-13326782619799903732015-03-21T13:47:15.815-07:002015-03-21T13:47:15.815-07:00In case you haven't seen it, there's a gre...In case you haven't seen it, there's a great talk by Gary Bernhardt on this topic: https://www.destroyallsoftware.com/talks/a-whole-new-world. Thanks so much for sharing the tale, you bring up interesting questions about the development of software moving forward.Andrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05908032612623820029noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5761095693213568868.post-26615656828879985202015-03-21T00:24:31.698-07:002015-03-21T00:24:31.698-07:00pypy.org runs crowdfunding - success, moderatepypy.org runs crowdfunding - success, moderateMaciej Fijalkowskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11410841070239382771noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5761095693213568868.post-66014419965170555252015-03-20T16:39:02.237-07:002015-03-20T16:39:02.237-07:00+1 for crowdfunding+1 for crowdfundingjfbarohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06140305880593300298noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5761095693213568868.post-78149430412284221422015-03-20T13:49:59.827-07:002015-03-20T13:49:59.827-07:00You could consider crowdfunding.You could consider crowdfunding.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09430710585276278181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5761095693213568868.post-4886334093624098242015-03-20T08:04:27.822-07:002015-03-20T08:04:27.822-07:00HHVM is open source. Etsy, Wikipedia, Baidu, WP E...HHVM is open source. Etsy, Wikipedia, Baidu, WP Engine, Box all use it. Being tied to facebook is not a negative, it's actually a huge positive. They are running rings around the zend team in what they are doing.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18003391613746263357noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5761095693213568868.post-60075004207466446142015-03-20T07:57:59.659-07:002015-03-20T07:57:59.659-07:00Hello Maciej, seems like we have a lot in common:
...Hello Maciej, seems like we have a lot in common:<br />http://marcobambini.com/my-y-combinator-experience/Marco Bambinihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02776644062030572043noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5761095693213568868.post-13401122500540349122015-03-20T06:11:23.519-07:002015-03-20T06:11:23.519-07:00Great post.
I feel like the evolution of compilers...Great post.<br />I feel like the evolution of compilers is really driven by the corporation that mainly uses it, and of course can fund it. I hope that will change in the future.Lineker TOmazelihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16077931365391013041noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5761095693213568868.post-78175021020142005472015-03-20T05:48:57.773-07:002015-03-20T05:48:57.773-07:00I think the standard model with the open source co...I think the standard model with the open source companies is to either provide consulting around a framework that allows people to do X or some special sauce that enhances the workings (like Azul on the JVM.) If you could come out with a version of PyPy that overcame the limitations against using reflection or even the standard logging framework, people would pay for that. I would. PyPy is just awesome.Wheatieshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04967183284484047446noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5761095693213568868.post-8889671480444200542015-03-20T05:38:30.961-07:002015-03-20T05:38:30.961-07:00Excellent post, and too bad that it's pretty h...Excellent post, and too bad that it's pretty hard to do a business model around these open source VM.<br />Def added your blog to my rss :)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07734903314716159309noreply@blogger.com